March 26, 2019

Should Unemployed Dads be Thrown in Jail for Past Due Child Support?

deadbeat dads in jailThis past Monday, I ran across an interesting article on msnbc.com entitled “Unable to Pay Child Support, Poor Parents Land Behind Bars.”   The gist of this article is that non-custodial parents (usually fathers) who have been out of work are brought before judges on contempt charges without any right to court appointed lawyers, and are ending up in jail for non-payment.

In one case, a 39 year Iraqi war vet living in Georgia, with a 10+ year history of regular payments fell behind when he lost his job 2 years ago.  Although now working, the judge would not agree to any payment arrangement and put the delinquent father in jail for 3 months.

Several of these recently incarcerated fathers have filed a class action lawsuit demanding that the state of Georgia provide legal counsel in cases where jail is a possible outcome.

Recently the United States Supreme Court ruled that poor parents are not entitled to court appointed lawyers when facing jail for non-payment of child support so long as state law contains “substantial procedural safeguards” to ensure that those without means to pay are not locked up.

The plaintiffs in the Georgia class action suit are contending that Georgia law does not provide those procedural safeguards.

What do you think?   I regularly hear from custodial parents who write to say that the non-custodial parent refuses to work or works for cash.  At the same time, it seems counterproductive to put a parent like the Iraqi war vet in jail, thereby causing him to lose his new job, putting him even further behind.

Georgia and other states, of course, have no money, and they will no doubt argue to the courts that they should not be burdened with the cost of court appointed lawyers for child support defendants.

What is a good solution to this type of situation?



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Jonathan Ginsberg practices Social Security disability law in Atlanta, Georgia.  He represents clients in claims before the Social Security Administration.

Comments

  1. This economy is bad right now. I think that there needs to be a line. I think both ideas are way to extreme. I know that unemployment benefits are garnished for child support because that is what the parent can afford right now. So I think if the parent is trying to pay there support obligations then there should be leniency. I also think that revengeful parents need to step back and be understanding.

  2. Ok, I think that EVERYBODY has a right to a FAIR trial..no matter what they did/didn’t do…BUT there are those FATHERS that have been in and out of jail/prison, won’t hold down a steady job, hangs with ALL kinds of wrong people, did/does drugs, and didn’t pay child support for previous children…even after ALL the times he has been in and out of the jail/prison systems, he doesn’t LEARN anything…and he had been asked for only $100 per month and he buy everything else the child may needs beyond that $100..did he do it? you may ask!!! NO! But he bought her a phone!!! lol..then took it back because he LOST his…and loses hers. Sooo mom gets her one and has been PAYING for it..we’re NOT even counting everything else mom has done over the 16-17 years of said childs life. He has ALWAYS come around DRUNK and couldn’t walk a straight line if his life depended on it..

    Now, the FATHERS such as this, should NOT be allowed to have ANY rights…it’s always the ones that have been there for their kids etc. and then falls on bad times like everybody else…to those fathers, fight for your rights…the others..well, may God have mercy on you…because mothers like me…….SHOULDN’T!!!

  3. Pamela Jefferson says:

    It is just by chance that I saw this. The child support system in Georgia is very corrupt. My husband has two children from a previouse relationship. The custodial parent opened and closed a case against in him in 1997. It was reopened in 2010 without any review. Before we knew it we were cast into a never-ending situation spiraling out of control. I must say that my husband in spite of paying a substantial amount of money disspite the case being closed had absolutely no rights. We have hired a lawyer, causing even more finacial burden on our family to barge into the Child Support Agency hopefully within the next thirty days to finaly rectify this situation. They first denyed him a review and are claiming he owes $67,000 in arrears. We are only able to obtain bank statements proving his payments as far back as 2004 due to limitations established by the banking system. A judged forced them to do a review which took 90 days at their discression. At the end of the review, they removed the 18 year old child from the claim but kept the amount of support payments the exact same and are refusing to finacially consider our 6 year old son. The custodial parent stated that my husband has not given her anything sense 1997. The son still listed as a recipient eligible for child support is 16 and recieving social security benefits in access of $900. Our lawyer has to force the Child Support Agency to consider this income when calculating the support payments. But before this can happen we have to obtain the child’s social security number with court documents and sopena the social security office for the finacial records which have existed sense two weeks after his birth.

    It has been very detrimental to our family. At one point we had to depend on family, friends and the church to help us with gas for our car so my husband could get to work, and to get our water/sewer restarted because we did not have the money to pay the bill. Each week something was being disconnected.

    It has occurred to me that these laws are unfair because the only people affected harshly are he parents who are trying to do the right thing. The agency does not aggressively seek out the non- custodial parents with little money. The agency portion/ fee is too small. It gets increasingly difficult to get the truth heard. Justice must comes at a hight financial cost and most custodial parents are strapped. It seems ironic that child support does not have to be claimed as income on the custodial parent’s tax return, nor can it be claimed as an expense on the non-custodial parent’s tax return. It is just money exchanged between ex-lovers in the name of the children they share.

    Our household has been held hostage to the jealous tendencies of his ex-girl friend. All of the children are suffering because she cut off the contact they had from thier visits together and the constant bad mouthing she does to her children for wanting to still spend time with him. She has moved and changed her phone number and constantly discouraging them from contacting him. They secretly speak on the phone on occasion and are friends on facebook.

    So, what is the solution? It should not be so easy to acuse somebody of poor parenting without investigations and court appearances. It serves no purpose in locking up the person you want to pay child support, suppending their driviers liscense. Where is the support for the children then? There has to be compassion in this economy while jobs are scarce. A complete overhaul is needed without a rush to judgement.

    Thank you so much for reading this. It was not my intention to be sooo long winded. tears are shed on both sides of this issue.

  4. i agree with you Pamela Jefferson. My boyfriend was jailed for 6 months for “contempt of court” , he has been unemployed for quite some time now. Without any investigation what so ever the court took him away from our (at the time) 2 year old son. He owes support to a woman with whom he had a child. He took his copies of job applications he filled out and other things showing he was seeking employment. (did i mention she makes like $80,000 a year?) The judge never even looked at them. This country has turned into one where any woman can take the life of a man and his family , and shatter it to pieces, by the simple process of getting pregnant. Many women are doing this now a days. Don’t get me wrong i am all for a man supporting his children. But some women are using babies as a tool for revenge. He has been in our son’s life (now going on 5 years old) since day one. It was beyond traumatic for my son to not see his father the next day. He developed severe separation anxiety and fear of being abandoned. I had to tell him every day that his daddy would be back and he loved him. The courts do not realize that this is affecting children. I pray this will come to an end soon. The law needs to change. My boyfriend (of 7 years) is soon facing the same fate all over again. I fear he will appear at another court proceeding and be jailed again. What will i tell my son?

  5. There are measures in place for the NCP to request a reduction when circumstances change… why most of these people DON’T, I cannot fathom!

    As for putting them in jail making the arrears just go further behind… why does it matter? If they are working for cash and not paying anyway, why am I to care?

    I have a case in Arkansas where my NCP hasn’t paid for 6 months and the state brought upon contempt charges. In court they took his word without even delving into all the information I provided PROVING he is working for cash and LOWERED his child support amount…. WHICH HE STILL HAS NOT PAID!

    So, if he’s not going to pay anyway, it’s not going to hurt me to have him thrown in jail.

  6. Some deserve jail. My ex has never been to jail nor paid what he owes! Texas attorney general spent 14 years trying to track him down. He was what they call a runner. He lives in Fresno Ca. So it was apparently to hard to catch him out of state. But then he turned 62. A Texas judge ordered child support from his social security. I recieved a few payments and they stopped. He went as far as to get himself on California welfare. He lives with his mom and works under the table. I went back and forth for 14 years to court sitting from 8am to 5pm for nothing. California state took his income because he is on the state! It was all for nothing. Good ole Gene Haanen, the loser who not only never paid child support for us but his wife and two children before we met. He never paid a dime out of 18 years for those two kid’s. He is a pro at it. California seems to be the place to get away with it.

  7. Leonard Davidson says:

    There is not an absolute answer to this question…
    My ex has always managed to stay one step ahead of the system too. Either working under the table or working from home from an out of state company. She has even gone so far as to submit a letter from a doctor claiming she was not able to work, when I asked if the local child support office if they follow up and investigate the legitimacy of a letter they simply said no, they take it for face value… 3 years later here we are and I have recieved my first payment due to the fact she started recieving ssdi. Before I ever rec’d that payment I had already rec’d a letter filed by her lawyer showing he is going to attempt try and either get it reduced etc… All I know is if anyone other than her would have been put in jail by a judge, she has been found in contempt of court several times but that literally was only a verbal slap on the wrist. No one to my personal knowledge has been able to beat the system over an over as successfully as she has been able to. If the judge or magistrate would have ever put her in jail just one single time, she would have had the respect for the court order for child support. That is the bottom line.

  8. AS A FATHER ,MYSELF I HAVE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES, I HAVE CUSTODY OF ALL MY CHILDREN, TWO.ONE 14 AND THE OTHER 4, BOY AND GIRL , BOTH MOTHER DOESNT PAY CHILD SUPPORT, IN OCT 2010 I HAD TO HAVE SPINAL SURGERY, AND THIS CAUSE ME TO BECOME DISABLE, IWAS FIRE FROM MY JOB WAS REFUSED UNEMPLOYMENT,IN THE STATE OF NORTH DAKOTA AND NOW IT BEEN 14 MONTHS AND STILL HAVENT HAD A PAY DAY IN 14 MONTHS.IM FIGHTING SOCIAL SECURITY, ALREADY LOSE ONE OF THE HOMES I OWN.AND SAVINGS IS GONE AND IM ABOUT TO TURN INTO A CRIMIAL TO TAKE CARE OF MY CHILDEN. I WENT TO COURT FOR SUPPORT IN ALABAMA,AND WAS REFUSED , 14 YEARS AND NOT ONE DIME IN SUPPORT,AS A MAN IN THIS COUNRTY ,YOU DONT STAND A CHANCE,THE LAWYERS JUST HAVE THERE HAND OUT,FOR A PAYDAY, IT DOESNT CHANGE, I JUST WISH I KNEW HOW TO CHANGE THINGS.BUT AS A MAN WE ARE SCREW WHEN IT COMES TO THE COURTS,

  9. My Ex chooses not to work. He lives in WA and has had bench warrants for not paying child support. With the Bench Warrant issued- and if the police catch up to him- he does and has gone to jail.
    I just dont understand why he sits in jail for 20 to 30 days, and then gets out on a Zero bail. What does he learn while sitting behind bars about paying for his child(ren) if he doesnt owe a dime for time spent behind bars? I think the courts should keep them in jail longer.
    My Ex does not work- and yet- he is capable of working. He is a plumber by trade and a darn good one. He made over $60,000 one year in a company that he worked for- and yet now he chooses not to work so he can get out of child support.It is sad.
    I think if someone truly pays for their child(ren) and then gets behind due to lack of work- there should be an exception to jail time…In my situation- mine turned out to be truly a dead beat dad.

  10. mimihater says:

    I have been reading over laws, I came across one I can’t seem to find again….it says that if a doctor signs a form stating you are disabled, can no longer work with out corrective surgery….Domestic relations has no enforcement authority over me. I am in PA, they are in Vermont…I have applied for SSDI, but i continue to get denied….I have read over most of your posts….hopefully what I learned here will be the edge I need to win the benefits.

    Cumberland County PA DRS, refused to accept the letter from the doctor till I hired a lawyer, then they only put a tempory freeze on the order(they actually refunded me some money), I paid till I was completely broke, I have lost everything and unable to work now. They require me to contact the office every 30 days to give updates on the disablity case(i see this as an illegal court order violating federal regulations)….now they want me to find another doctor to re-confirm my disablity? How many times do I have to prove this to them, till death?

    I have paid this child support since the child was 2 months old, they placed the order for support on me while we were still together dating….the support order was one of the major factors in my break up with the X. The child is now 18 but still in highschool, I have failed to pay for almost 2 years now, but under a court order for a stay till SSDI kicks in…..my current lawyer, is hinting at the possiblity that they will throw out the note from the doctor I got and force me to work….I seriously can not work, this seems to be a mojor problem. i am afraid to go to jail in my physical condition….the regular non-crimnal people in the streets want to beat me up because I look weak….Im likely to get murdered in jail. I have no real arrears, it is not showing as such…..but they contend that I owe this money. Cumberland County has used this to surpress me for the last 2 decades, I couldn’t get away with falling behind even a month….recently I fell behind 3 weeks tansitioning in and out of unemployment…I had an auto-pay account set up and just about ready to start auto-payments….then a court order came freezing my assets….cost 1000 dollars to pay 150 in arrears….they also illegaly seazed 2 tax returns many years ago. I feel someone should charge these guys with Official supression by a governmental office.

    What is the federal law that bars PA from incarcerating a disabled father?

  11. For Real Chicky says:

    There is no justice and that is what we are wanting. Because those in “authority” such as Lawyers and judges and those who have been elected into government who are disconnected from the plight of the people, but make laws concerning the people, are not objective, they do not consider the spirit of the law but strictly the letter which kills. We want things to change but we do not act on what we want and need as a society. If we started putting the humble, regular people into our government, not the bloated, arrogant, egos of our current candidates, we have a better chance to get the help we need. And yet, We have become a police nation, the laws cripple the poor, and cast them further and further into despair. Laws are put into place to that only cripple those in need. Once someone is labeled a felon, for whatever reason, and believe me it can be really easy to have that conviction put on your head, It then becomes nearly impossible to get a job, find a place to live, survive. Often it is simply not possible to even feed themselves. Not because they want to live this way but because people look at felons like they are bad people to have around, can’t be trusted etc… And just because someone is a felon does not mean they are bad people, they were just dumb people for a moment in time and made bad choices. I am a mother of three. My ex is a sociopath and abuser. My boyfriend is a father of three and pays child support. I have seen how unfair and unjust the system is for the father and I know the county is messing with me as well. What sucks even worse is that once the county gets involved with your shit they won’t leave peacefully. What I have found is they can break laws and never be held accountable, there is no organization regulating the regulators. I am a fully disabled person due to a fall 30 ft off a roof 23 years ago. I have been getting SSDI for 22 years. I work as much as I can for cash, I have taught myself many trades, graphic design, massage therapy, publishing, eventually I started my own company. But it never really got me out of the hole my ex left me with. I let the house go back to the bank, I lost my car, gained $50,000 in debt from credit cards he took out in my name, that I can not pay, It cost me $10,000 to get a divorce and I am still paying on it. I haven’t even been able to get my taxes done in four years. Not that I would get anything back I live on $1000 a month and $700 in child support. With rent and food alone we are flat broke! right now I have $12 in my bank account. I am a sober business women trying to rise above all that has been done to me and my kids by my ex, by doing what ever I can to make a buck. I give massages for $50 and just as quickly as it is in my hand I am buying milk and eggs, chicken and fresh food if I’m lucky. I have only been divorced for five years, I was married for 18 years. He has taken me to court multiple times to have the child support reduced because I am making money under the table he says, yet the money I make goes to buying food or clothes for my kids. He left me with all the responsibility and walked away scott free. He gets to start all over with no pain, while my kids and I are barely living and he wants to reduce the support. This time it back fired however because I have not been able to make a dent in the needs my family has. We are POOOOOORRRRRR! We are basically homeless, I was given a camper and live in that all summer, but I live in Minnesota so I have to find a place in the winter in the same school district. I have nothing, I sold everything i had of value after the divorce. And I mean EVERYTHING! What remains fits in a small storage unit. If it wasn’t for the SS, I would truly be on the street. My oldest son just joined the Marines and is in California, My second son is 17 and my Daughter is 15. There are no jobs even for my kids. My Children do not have phones or cars shit they don’t even have a drivers licence. I visit the food shelf and churches that give food regularly. And this winter I am living in a room. I can’t even offered to put insurance on my car. I would love nothing more then to stop taking anything from that mother f****r. I have suffered at his hand for too long and any involvement in my or my children’s lives taxes my soul! Because of all my family has gone through there were major bumps in the road and my daughter failed the 8th grade so I arranged for her to go live with a friend to go to a school that would put her in the ninth grade and help her with what she needs then come back with me after school and enroll her back in the school here. My friend had a seasonal job and is now jobless but for some reason Minnesota won’t give her unemployment. So she applied for Welfare she got food stamps. Now the County is coming after me for child support to pay My Friend, yet I send her money every month as well as pay for her car payments. They have decided that they need to get involved and take child support from me to give to her to lower her food stamps. Why can’t they just leave us alone, I give her what I can, so We are not drowning, and she knows this. Now they are going to come to me and demand I pay back any money my friend got for food stamps. It’s time for my daughter to come home and in the middle of the school year, I don’t know what to do. I will be fighting for sure, why should they get to decide where I spend my CS? I’m helping as best I can! So here it is, Everyone has there story that is the spirit of the law, the situation that compels people to do what they do, and instead of actually helping people rise above the poverty and desperation, laws are created to break the spirit and destroy. There is no reason to put fathers in jail for not paying, there is however a thing called probation, where every move they make is watched for a period of time, jobs are checked out, investigations are carried out to find the truth of the situation. No matter what, however, hate rages between spouses which leaves the spirit of those involved in a divorce self righteous , subjective, and actions taken are designed to hurt. Lawyers are out for the glory and the cash. I have yet to find a lawyer who actually helps. Their services are out of reach for those of us who truly need a lawyer. Unless you have the retainer for get it, no justice no mercy!

  12. my ex owes over $25000.00 in back child support, he gets paid under the table, and he has a warrant for his arrest.becuz he didnt show up for court. i have written to the govenor, the attorney general, and i will keep going, he nned to realize his children need that money, like a flower needs sunshine.

  13. @natasha: sorry to all of the deadbeat dads out there but it should be a definite jail sentence. Everyone that is standing up for deadbeat parents who don’t care about their children should be jailed because it is “abuse” in my opinion. Abuse is when you don’t take care of a child or do something wrong to them. Not paying child support on purpose should be crime in the first degree if they are hiding or don’t pay anything for their children. If the custodial parent walks out on the children they go to jail for child neglect what is so different from a father that walks out on his children and doesn’t care to pay anything. If the father is paying something and isn’t hiding then there should be some time for him to get his act together not long though. The taxpayers and people that care in this country are paying the burden for all the deadbeats through welfare payments, medical bills, just everything. More people should stand up for their rights, and the government should hire more agents to find these deadbeats and bring them in. The court should hand out a list of job opportunities in their areas and have the deadbeats go on the interview and report back to the court to see if they did in deed go and actually talk to the interviewer(the court appointee) and then if there was some obvious reason why they didn’t get hired then have a court appointed person to help the person improve to get the jobs out there. It may cost a little but in the long run it will be good for everyone concerned. That’s one thing. Instead of just saying to these guys go out and find a job on their own and a whole year goes by and nothing. Come on now! We are talking about putting food on tables of children and a roof over their heads. I am a (custodial parent) and a victim of this nonsense of non support by a deadbeat dad. I know first hand what it can do to a family and mother and children. The stress and pain it causes when a dad doesn’t pay anything for months or maybe years and these guys know how to hide from the system. My ex lived in one state and worked in another. The court couldn’t find him so they said. I went to court he owed over $5,000 in arrears, and they put a warrant for him. I had to call the court to find out what was going on because a month went by and I heard nothing after an order for his arrest and arrears was issued! They told me they would go out and look for him at his home(he lives with his mom?)only address on him. They went there once and told me no one answered the door and the house was dark. I kept calling back over months they did nothing. The officers even went to talk to the mom who covered up for my ex and said she did not know where he was and had not talked to him for a year. The officer told me they only had little man power and were not going to stand outside his house everyday looking for him. In the meantime, there was hardly any food, my bills were behind, turn off noices my son would cry he didn’t have what his friends had, I was running out of the money I got from disability, while my ex had a roof over his head and obviously someone was taking care of him. Yes, the only money was from my disability which is little coming in. I got nowhere with anyone after calling what seemed to be all state offices in the state and the congressman. What is going on? I was on internet and low and behold I see his picture and name working for this company. Why couldn’t the probation office find this out. Why am I doing their job? They said because he working in another state they could not serve a warrant on him. Can you believe that? Why isn’t the system up to date with interstate warrants. If someone is in another state he cannot be arrested. I was told this wasn’t a crime. It was civil. What I said? Oh, so a dad doesnt pay child support, skips out on his son(not ever seeing him) or supporting him and that’s not a crime. But other things are that are not that important. Who does he think is going to pay for his child, or better who does the state think is going to help me? All I got was we know how you feel, but there is nothing we can do about it even thought they new where he was working. I went for almost a whole year without any support not even a penny. I’ll tell you what makes these guys get away with this is because they know they can get away with it! They jump from job to job so that the system takes forever to catch up and skip town. Not all guys but some do like my ex. To make a long story short, when I finally got him into court (he shows up late by the way, and this was not his first rodeo, he was arrested before years ago for same thing only he was not as saive as he is now knowing the ropes, judge arrested him in court and a day later he miraculously came up with $1,000, he again was behind thousands) he miraculously comes up with $1,000 to give the judge which is only a sliver of what he owes me and my bill collectors, and the judge asks him what hes doing to find a job and lets him walk out without a job again well he’s getting unemployment. He has been getting unemployment now for more than a year. Do you think the judge called him back “no” not that I know of anyway. He’s still getting unemployment to this day it’s been over a year. The case worker knows this, I’m assuming it’s on the system saying “unemployment”. You all know what’s going to happen when it runs out, where back to square one me with no money, my child with nothing from him, not even contact(no phone calls/no visits/nothing) I have sole custody. The court says they cannot make a dad see his son but they can make him pay. We also get the story that there are so many cases like mine and I’m just another one. Why is this? I have no sympathy for women who are on their second or third marriages or whatever and they marry or have a child or 2 or 3 with a guy who already has a child or children from previous relationships and get upset with the ex wife for taking the deadbeat to court and ordering support. Rediculous. We were there first and we have the burden. In my case, I am disabled, so it’s not like I can go out and get another job or 2. I’m certainly not going to go out and find another guy after what I went through with him. Why can’t he? No, the courts allow him to sit on his but and not look for work. I have some good ideas to help the system but we all know that it will not happen. This is the system. I’m sorry for ranting a little but I’ve been there and know exactly how it works and don’t want to hear the new wife or girlfriend upset about her husband or boyfriends money getting taken away or him being put in jail or whatever because he is not paying for his other children. He shouldn’t have gotten in another relationship if he can’t take care of the first. Bottom line. One last thing, my ex when we did catch up a year later and he actually came to court said that no officer came to the door that he was there the whole time and laughed and balked at the fact that they said that he said that they couldn’t have looked to hard cause he was there. Now, can you believe that. What is going on? Sorry. I’m sure many women in my shoes think the same. Thanks for reading and listening.

  14. there are jobs out there. When they go to court let the courts come in with a list of jobs even if it means for the time being at “McDonalds” or ” Street Sweeper” , most of the time the person doesn’t think they are low enough to take the that job. But they can be even lower by not paying a single cent to their children! The government is now giving people at least a year or years on unemployment whereas they should be looking for jobs all the time which most people are not and have given up. One thing leads to another. Ask me, my ex went for a year without paying one stinking cent to his child. Is that fair may I ask you? So, inotherwords the custodial parent should bear all the burden? on what grounds? If the non custodial parent was still living with the family they would have to pay for rent and the essentials of everyday life. What makes them any different now that they are with another family or person or whatever. Please. Seems like so many people are saying poor new family but what about the woman alone he left behind with nothing especially if they can’t work on disability, or even if she can work and does why should she be the one with all the burden for the children? Why is that ok? Where does one get the idea that the other parent is being resentful or understanding when they have to feed and cloth and shelter the child or children that the guy there with now is responsible?? I understand that some people loose their jobs or the economy is bad but are you saying that it’s not bad for the other parent? Where is the sense? My child needs braces and I certainly can’t afford it and his insurance isn’t going to pay for it, I was going to take my exhusband back to court for more money for things he needs and wants but guess what now that he’s been on unemployment for over a year now I can’t, the judge will look at me and say he can’t even pay you for food never mind braces? See where I’m coming from. It’s not a matter of understanding in some cases it’s a matter of fact.

  15. DanielF says:

    I’d tell you my story, but when I think about it I almost don’t believe it myself. The best you can do is to try to get a compromise of arears settlement, and keep negotiating until they decide on your behalf, then try to get paid off and hope you have enough time to start a new “wife free” life.

    So you think you got troubles
    the more you try the worse they get
    so you think the world don’t like you
    well brother, you ain’t heard nothing yet

    I’ll buy me a bar in the back of my car
    and drive myself to drink!

  16. anonymous says:

    @deborah: aahh that is the minority and the ones t.v uses as reasons to attack the 95 percent that really are trying like mad to make ends meet the instant your hit with child support allot of men loose there apartments because they where just getting by ..the women which ..allot of these men where with, tossed them out of the house because of interest in someone else and this does happen ALL the time.
    now the father is struggling to find an apartment and try to still pay what little he can for his children under these mentally exhausting and extreme conditions and if he manages to find a place, then child support “makes damn sure” he cannot afford to live there as it conveniently kicks in just in time..
    ..by slashing his net pay by almost half..now he loses his place allot have nowhere to go but maybe shelter or car or bounces around from friend to friend and eventually job loss and contempt then jail..look up how many supposed dead beat dads are in Jail..its amazing ..they make for nice cheap labor in prison for the state… right mr. blog owner? did you look into that end of it? you actually have to pose the question should ssi be garnished NO not even ssdi this is a dependent money needed!! Morons….it should be exempt just like the welfare money the mother gets from state aid is exempted you people in charge have combined iq of a walnut!! Because you pass laws ,that makes those laws right?!!
    grrr,,you have no emotion chip upstairs to guide your thoughts..you demonize deadbeats and lump em all together taking the 5 percent or less and grouping all in this category for a witch hunt .. you legalize ssdi to be garnished and effectively kill off the father because they have nothing left to give there children!! you use them managing some kind of off and on work under the table to survive to aid in your witch hunts!! they do that because if they got another job over the table you would increase child support and if that job stopped now they have to wait to stand before a judge to get the payments lowered again in the mean time having their checks HEAVILY garnished or arrears building up on the price of the increased money they made and it can take MONTHS for a hearing!
    ya punish them for trying to live.. for trying to have a home/apartment to take their children to trying to have a car because they cannot afford one this is on ssdi payments and it applies with poor working fathers same deal . you can NEVER make up for the crimes you are committing daily with your laws on attacking the disabled, your the true trash of society.and mr lawyer that makes his money off the misery, rather than go against the gravy train and do whats right, you do whats wrong because its easier on your purse..if you fought the garnishment of ssdi, well the states courts would be having less funds running passed their paws, what ever would they do then ?

  17. anonymous says:

    @deborah: aahh that is the minority and the ones t.v uses as reasons to attack the 95 percent that really are trying like mad to make ends meet the instant your hit with child support allot of men loose there apartments because they where just getting by ..the women which ..allot of these men where with, tossed them out of the house because of interest in someone else and this does happen ALL the time.
    now the father is struggling to find an apartment and try to still pay what little he can for his children under these mentally exhausting and extreme conditions and if he manages to find a place, then child support “makes damn sure” he cannot afford to live there as it conveniently kicks in just in time..
    ..by slashing his net pay by almost half..now he loses his place allot have nowhere to go but maybe shelter or car or bounces around from friend to friend and eventually job loss and contempt then jail..look up how many supposed dead beat dads are in Jail..its amazing ..they make for nice cheap labor in prison for the state… right mr. blog owner? did you look into that end of it? you actually have to pose the question should ssi be garnished NO not even ssdi this is a dependent money needed!! Morons….it should be exempt just like the welfare money the mother gets from state aid is exempted you people in charge have combined iq of a walnut!! Because you pass laws ,that makes those laws right?!!
    grrr,,you have no emotion chip upstairs to guide your thoughts..you demonize deadbeats and lump em all together taking the 5 percent or less and grouping all in this category for a witch hunt .. you legalize ssdi to be garnished and effectively kill off the father because they have nothing left to give there children!! you use them managing some kind of off and on work under the table to survive to aid in your witch hunts!! they do that because if they got another job over the table you would increase child support and if that job stopped now they have to wait to stand before a judge to get the payments lowered again in the mean time having their checks HEAVILY garnished or arrears building up on the price of the increased money they made and it can take MONTHS for a hearing!
    ya punish them for trying to live.. for trying to have a home/apartment to take their children to trying to have a car because they cannot afford one this is on ssdi payments and it applies with poor working fathers same deal . you can NEVER make up for the crimes you are committing daily with your laws on attacking the disabled, your the true trash of society.and mr lawyer that makes his money off the misery, rather than go against the gravy train and do whats right, you do whats wrong because its easier on your purse..if you fought the garnishment of ssdi, well the states courts would be having less funds running passed their paws, what ever would they do then ? ps after rereading i need to clarify morns comment was not about this persons blog or posters it was about those that actully believe a needed funds should be garnihed .. the Lawyer comment was a reference to the basic lawyers in general not the lawyer on here ..

  18. I am A noncustodial parent whom is trying very hard to keep a job and pay the state Of WA and the costodial parent. For some reason when it comes to children this state treats men that owe Back support like we are cirminals. It becomes very real when the state takes away your rights to drive, this inturn makes almost imposible to obbtain steady employment so there for you do what you have to do to get by, if this means working under the table for what is very little the so be it,all the while tyring to keep a roof over your head and fuel in your vehicle not to mention buying food and cloths for your self. All this talk about doing the right thing for your children. Why not punish the looser custodial parent that has been on the system since the birth of my children, nothing is ever done to a mother that uses the welfare system as a means of incom. The states should make it A priority to the citezens of said state that know one person can live there whole life on the backes of the tax payer, this inclueds noncustodial prarents that work and pay taxes.

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